When Public Order Collapses

I suppose that few British people have ever seen the collapse of public order. The United Kingdom has at least been fortunate in that regard. The tumultuous events of the past century have left largely intact the Victorian legacy of “law and order” bequeathed by the 19th Century.

Britain has endured two world wars (1914-1918 and 1939-1945), other and smaller wars overseas, a General Strike (1926), other periods of industrial strife (1930s, 1970s), acts of terrorism, periods of political violence (1930s, 1970s) and even a limited and slow-burn civil war in pockets (Northern Ireland, particularly 1970s to late 1990s), yet overall order (and the rule of law) has persisted. Even in Northern Ireland that has been so, though a barrister friend of mine visited a “Diplock court”–https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplock_courts— in the 1980s and told me of how surrealistic it was to see a criminal trial with all the panoply of the English law (bewigged and gowned barristers, a “red judge” in his wig and robes etc) but without a jury and, instead of court security or police officers, several soldiers carrying submachineguns and on guard.

This is of course in stark contrast to the experience of other Europeans. Russia of course is, as always, sui generis, with its 20thC revolutions (1917), civil war (1918-1922), political purges (1917-1948), invasion and vast wartime destruction (1941-1945), as well as the collapse of the Soviet system in the 1980s and early 1990s and the waves of gangsterism and Jewish-Zionist oligarchy that followed from 1991 onward until a degree of stability was attained under the Putin regime.

The older generation of mainland Europeans were almost all affected, at least at second-hand, by disorders: the Second World War swept across the continent leaving few countries untouched (and even some of those–Finland, Spain, Eire– had seen their own wars, civil wars etc). In fact, the only European countries of any size unaffected directly (though certainly indirectly) by the Second World War or civil upheavals were Sweden and Switzerland. Even Portugal, neutral during 1939-1945, later had a military coup and revolution (in the 1970s).

France, for example, was in the 20th Century invaded twice, had several all-France republics established, as well as the Vichy Government of 1940-1944; it also had considerable political and industrial conflict, huge destruction from air, land and sea (in 1940, from German attack, but more seriously from the Anglo-American invasion, bombing, shelling etc of 1941-1944). France also had the underground war of the OAS in the early 1960s, which very nearly brought down de Gaulle and the Fifth Republic.

Again, Poland has seen, from 1914 through to the 1980s, invasions, purges, wars, civil disorder, very great changes in the Western and Eastern borders of the country itself, near-starvation at times, economic collapse several times, destruction of much of its infrastructure, ruination of its currency.

The effects upon civic life and rule of law of all these events has been greater on mainland Europe than has been the case in the UK. On mainland Europe, the ways of life of the various countries has had to be re-established, sometimes several times over, usually with very significant changes. In the UK, the way of life has evolved quite slowly and –even as a result of WW2– without dramatic alteration overnight.

Why then, do I see civil disorder as a serious possibility in the UK?

First of all, Britain has taken in a vast horde of mainly non-European immigrants, most of whom have no racial, cultural or religious connection with anything that British history has produced. Even those non-Europeans born in the UK do not feel the same connection with the country that is felt by the real British (including those with other white Northern European ancestry and who were born here).

Secondly, the reaction of the Caribbeans and other non-Europeans to serious difficulty is to engage in street protest which can become riotous, as has happened several times even in the past decade.

Thirdly, the indigenous British have lost at least some of the resilience which sustained public order in previous times. By way of personal anecdote, I recall the “petrol crisis” of 2000, when I had not long returned from overseas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_protests_in_the_United_Kingdom. Having little choice but to travel across country, I saw at one motorway filling station scenes not far from the chaotic. This left a deep impression on me. Speaking personally, I have little faith in the ability of the System to maintain order, should a more serious or prolonged crisis hit the nation, if “nation” it still is.

I do not see the British now as a unified people, because of both cultural and directly racial/religious factors. A large and growing minority are really not British at all and have only tenuous connection with and loyalty to the State.

A fourth aspect is that the arms of the State are not now well-staffed. Police, Army etc. Could they handle large-scale disruption? I wonder.

It may be that the UK will have to undergo some of the vicissitudes endured in the past century by many of the mainland European peoples before a new system is established.

4 thoughts on “When Public Order Collapses”

    1. I approved your anonymous comment (this time) in the interest of freedom of expression.

      I do not “spend my day” “attacking the police”. However, some UK police forces (meaning some and only some police and/or civilian staff) are trying to go well beyond the letter of the law in repressing entirely legitimate freedom of expression and acting like a poundshop KGB. I criticize that.

      ps: your ISP number has been captured.


  1. Post Scriptum…your ISP number has been captured. A bit like that old rhyme…’eeny, meany, miney, mo, catch a n….r by his toe, if he wriggles let him go, eeny, meany, miney, mo!’

    I see you’ve had your Twitter deleted, no doubt by some considerate moderator who also has your ISP number too, no doubt. You’ve already got mine anyway!

    The state and the police can only effectively operate with the cooperation and approval of the public, and as you’ve noted not all the public approve or cooperate all the time.

    As things deteriorate there will be more and more private Shomrim style police forces operating on the streets whether the State approves them or not.

    This is already the case on private gated housing and in bars and clubs in London. We are only one step away from the breakdown of law and order which is always the problem with any government that refuses to defend its borders adequately.

    Actually I think a better place than the West Country for a Nationalist redoubt would be the Isle of Wight…cheap property, fertile land, easily defended with easy access to both London and the continent.

    Anyway, what is the situation with Alison Chabloz? Has the state decided what it intends to do about a girl singing songs about our oppressors? If these people who don’t like songs about their oppressive stance against the indigenous peoples, perhaps they should bugger off to Israel or Ukraine (original home of the Ashkenazi) or better still go to Hyme Town in the good ole US of A.

    After all we have had enough of their dictatorial, parasitical and usurious behaviour which they unfailingly employ where ever they stick their obnoxious noses in to. Surely they’d be happier in the land of demonic possession (Israel) or the home of Satanism (USA) or getting food poisoning eating Poroshenko’s confectionary.

    Do hope you are having fun doing whatever it is you do these days. I’m on my way to Outer Mongolia for a six week yak drive…well round up actually…and copious amounts of yak milk tea with Aunty Taiga’s best home made wodka…90′ proof apparently…terminal. Specially smuggled in from Baikal relations, yak herders stick together you know! Serious pals and all that. Thick as theives but in a pleasant way. Lots of shamanistic rituals too…

    Have a pleasant summer. Regards to all my friends, well ex friends actually…bye bye!


    1. I have, once again, approved your post in the interests of free speech.

      Not sure what you mean about “my Twitter having been deleted”. I have been tweeting for 7 years now and prolifically for 5, but have never been suspended, let alone expelled

      I did consider the Isle of Wight, though the population density is far higher than in Devon or Cornwall. If anyone had £100M, that person could buy 10%-20% of the Isle of Wight, including hundreds of country houses, farms and lesser dwellings.

      As to your query about Alison Chabloz, I know only what I have read. The original charges brought privately by the malicious and publicity-seeking Jew-Zionist organization (small but well-funded group) calling itself “Campaign Against Antisemitism” were dropped (as I anticipated) once the Crown Prosecution Service took over the case (also anticipated), but, in a move not expected by me, the CPS then charged her with 4 new charges based on similar facts (her clever satirical songs). At present, the situation seems to be that a day of legal argument will occur in late October of this year, after which there may or may not be a trial either even later this year or in 2018. The matter being ongoing, I do not want to discuss it further here, except to say that the original private prosecution was plainly malicious and politically-motivated. I do not believe that, in the end, Alison Chabloz will be convicted of anything. She may not even be tried, in fact.


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