I have not watched GB News as such, but today saw an interview via Twitter. The interviewee was the sinister Jew-Zionist, Stephen Silverman, “Head of Investigations and Enforcement” at the fake “charity” known as “Campaign Against Antisemitism” or “CAA”.
The interview on GB News was not so much an interview, more the presenters allowing Silverman to make a long and dull statement whining about how Twitter had seen through the fake CAA “charity” and had then binned the CAA as a “partner organization” re. issues around supposed “antisemitism”.
Silverman also (as usual) promoted the idea that there should be even more repression of free speech in the UK.
At the end of the “interview”, the Halligan person thanked Silverman for coming on to the show, and expressed how welcome he was at GB News.
I suppose that the Halligan person was unaware that Silverman was (despite having hidden his identity behind fake names and multiple Twitter accounts) actually exposed in open court a few years ago as one of several connected Jewish-Zionist trolls, all connected with the CAA, and who harassed several people (mainly women) online as well as offline, e.g. by making false and malicious complaint to various police forces about people, some of whom (see my experience above) were actually asked to “voluntary” interviews with police before the matters were dropped.
As for Gloria de Piero, a typical “put a beggar on a horse and he/she rides it to death” careerist chancer, typical of Blair/Brown “Labour”.
I read, in the msm and elsewhere, that GB News is so lacking in viewers that some shows are at statistical zero in terms of audience or viewership. It seems to be another typical front for Jew-Zionism and the NWO, posing (sometimes) as a “free speech” and “conservative” TV station. It’s a fake. Bin it.
It would be interesting to know why Jews are almost all (apparently) in favour of facemask use. They probably think that it is because they are (in their own opinion) more intelligent than non-Jews, but experience has taught me and others a different lesson.
The usual confusion when people start trying to squeeze actual facts and policies into the outdated but ingrained “right”/”left” straitjackets.
Has it really taken these tweeters 20 months to start to work all that out?!
Exactly. The former “socialist” or “Left” people now have little or nothing to say. No policy. No principle. Only a farrago of “woke” nonsense based around “anti-racism”, “anti-sexism”, “LGBT” etc.
Their biggest thrill? When they can get someone expelled from Twitter or, even better, cause someone to lose a job or profession, after having been denounced by the Twit-mob. The Jew-Zionist element is behind much of it, but the pseudo-socialist element is similar in its activity.
The big move at last: I was wondering how long it would be in coming. This is at least a major part of the push towards the NWO/ZOG post-2022 society of the next 33+ years. The System controlling the very life and livelihood of all humans, starting with the advanced Western societies.
It may not work out as they think, though. The same forces made a different push as 1989 approached (an attempt to abolish old-style socialism, capitalize the Soviet Union, China etc, destroy Arab/Muslim power and all geopolitical enemies of Israel).
That plan succeeded in part, but not completely.
The Soviet Union was broken up and “capitalized”, and China was “capitalized” (though not entirely, in that the State retained the overall control; also, a nationalist element was retained).
In the Middle East, the Western ruling circles managed to contrive wars and civil wars, playing on existing Arab/Muslim tensions. The wars against Saddam Hussein, the stoking of the existing Syrian conflict, the abolition of Libya as a serious or semi-serious state, all gave Israel a great deal of geopolitical protection.
All that “worked” for the international conspiracy (or consensus, if you like). However, the “plan” was derailed in part when two things happened. Firstly, the upsurge in Arab/Muslim Islamist activity, most strikingly when the Islamists attacked New York City in 2001. That brought in a new factor, in that it became clear that New York and the USA, as the ZOG/NWO heartland, was not invulnerable (though the NWO and ZOG tried to turn that event around by “weaponizing” the event as an excuse to invade both Iraq and, later, Afghanistan).
At first, after 1989 and especially 1991, Jews flooded into Moscow from the USA, UK, France. Carpetbaggers. They exploited the country and its people terribly. Meanwhile, the (almost all Jew) “oligarchs” such as Berezovsky, Abramovitch and others were looting by the million, by the billion.
Putin’s rule, though very imperfect, is hugely better than was that of drunken corrupt Yeltsin and his Jewish clique.
Russia has been rearming both actually and morally: no more do young Russian girls see their best career option as being high-priced prostitutes, and there has been a recovery of national feeling generally, though foreign Jews still infest much of the economy.
The UK is a key part of that plan. Look at recent prime ministers: Blair (suspected part-Jew), Cameron-Levita (part-Jew), Theresa May (suspected part-Jew), “Boris” Johnson (part-Jew). Look also at the present Cabinet and Government generally: Jews, part-Jews, Pakistanis, Indians in most of the most important roles.
So it can be seen that the plan for 1989-2022 has partly succeeded. Now we see an intensification of “control” throughout the Western world and beyond. That is their aim for 2022-2055. That, and the destruction of white European society and culture by making all the countries of Europe mixed-race, and by continuing to vandalize white European culture and history. .
As I have often blogged, the trade unions long ago ceased to be about collective bargaining, protecting workers’ real rights etc, and have morphed into politically-correct mere advice centres and System drone-factories. Useless.
Many deluded people imagine that “if only those in authority would deal with” this, that, or the other (in this case, migration-invasion of England), whereas in fact the System wants migration-invasion, because it supports the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan: white genocide. It’s an international conspiracy.
I suggest that Valiant be renamed Craven…
We often criticize the Africans, Asians etc for their corruption, but look at what is on our own doorstep…
Yes, the “panicdemic” has exposed rafts and layers of delusion in the British population that even I would not have believed. The “rabbits” wearing facemasks while walking or cycling alone (some even in deserted countryside!), the crazies who ritually put on their facemasks as soon as they exit their cars in supermarket car parks, the idiots who have stayed at home eating and drinking themselves to death for about 19 months now.
Having said that, I was out and about yesterday in a supermarket, a chemist’s, and a filling station. I wore a facemask in none and, despite over half the people seen shopping still wearing their muzzles, not one censorious look came my way from even one idiot, let alone any comment. I also noticed that few of the staff serving me (and only in the supermarket) were masked. We’re getting there…
When a local System political drone posts a tweet which exposes her utter stupidity!…Not only that, but her facemask muzzle is cloth, in other words completely useless (because the holes are 500,000x the size of Covid-19 particles). Asinine bitch.
Reminds me of what a Soviet person said to me in 1987 or 1988: to the effect that, if paid enough, the Soviet Union would take over the Northern Irish “Troubles” and end them for good. It was a kind of joke, of course. His other one was that UK convicts could be shipped to the Soviet Union to do their time and he would “guarantee that the Soviet Government would turn a profit on the deal“! Well, he was in a position to know, having done 5 years (reduced from 10 when Stalin died) in a labour camp north of the Arctic Circle.
Once again, the Jewish Chronicle propaganda newspaper has to pay out for having defamed someone.
Occasionally, I see tweets by all sorts of mentally-disordered persons about me, including how I allegedly “defame” this or that Jew, System MP, msm drone, and/or other incompetent. Sometimes such tweets urge others to sue me. In a few instances, even the said Jews, mental cases and/or incompetents threaten to sue me. Those tweets make me smile, and sometimes laugh.
When I was a practising barrister (until 2008), I was not very active in the fields of libel and slander, but was asked to advise on such issues from time to time. The only matter that got as far as trial (in the High Court) was some years before I was Called to the Bar.
Not permitted, as a mere (belated) student, to speak, I advised during the two-week trial via notes passed to Flegon by his “assistant”, a dark and nervous Jewish girl. I myself had to be absent much of the time, sometimes because I had to attend tutorials at the Inns of Court School of Law at Gray’s Inn, not too far from the Royal Courts of Justice.
On one occasion, I sent a note to Flegon, who was addressing (and wasting the time of) the judge. I then left the court. Apparently, the judge then asked to see my note! Fortunately, the judge liked what he had read and told Flegon that he would be well-advised “to listen to what your adviser has written to you“!
Flegon was awarded (by a civil jury) £10,000 damages, plus costs. My first “case”, and my first “judicial commendation”!
Reverting to me as potential fantasy defamation defendant, I fear that, in the American phrase, potential claimants have a “sad row to hoe” and a steep hill to climb.
For one thing, while it is possible to launch a defamation action on a no-win-no-fee basis, that really only works where the case is both more than arguable, and also where the defendant has assets sufficient to satisfy at least the claimant’s costs, as well as any damages.
In my case, I admit that my assets are few. That impecuniosity is however a suit of armour for me. I am, in practical terms, “unsueable”.
In theory, a defamation action could be launched against me, with the aim of getting an injunction to restrain me from defaming XYZ person or persons. However, I would fight very very hard. I know the law pretty well (even now, though I admit that I am rather rusty), and would have no compunction about using every avenue open to me, including appeals.
Beyond that, most of that which idiots describe as my “libel” of others is not “libel” at all (eg because in law “mere insult”), or even where prima facie “libellous” is true and justifiable, or is published as justifiable opinion, or is published otherwise lawfully and justifiably.
I wish that tweeters would learn before they tweet, not only about law but in general.
Still, if anyone wants to lose a couple of hundred thousand trying to pursue me, that is their business…they would lose out even if (which I doubt) they were to meet with success in court.
So far, and after many years, no-one has even tried, and only one or two have even threatened (unconvincingly, at that).
More tweets seen
God…I saw that rubbish a couple of times. Even worse, if possible, than Question Time.
When Moses came down from Mount Sinai, he found the Israelite tribes engaging in all forms of decadence. Those involved had to be exterminated for the good of the people as a whole.
Why do people like this rarely get official honours or awards?
Ha ha! I have to admit that, the more the pseudo-health police state tries to control me, and the more idiots I see wearing facemasks even when cycling or walking in the open air, the more I feel that way myself!
Laurence Fox is, in his own person and in his political flounderings, a socio-political morality tale. Virtually lynched for making a few unexceptional and unexceptionable points around free speech, he soon became a minor aspect of “controlled opposition” to the System.
Fox is unwilling to stand up for real free speech, and not once has the bastard ever said a word supporting or defending the real champions of freedom of expression in this country, those who have suffered greatly for standing up for Europe’s future: Jez Turner, Alison Chabloz, and (if I myself say so) me (among others).
No word of criticism of the Jew-Zionist element has crossed the lips of Fox, yet that alien element is not only behind much of the assault on free speech, but also behind much of the present migration-invasion.
Fox has even set up his own joke political party, which decided not to stand a candidate at Batley and Spen recently, because it might harm the Conservative Party vote!
Now this individual begs to be let back in to the System msm, and so pledges fealty to the contemporary decadence…
This whole nonsense of over-reaction to the virus must be ended! People who are completely or effectively OK are now being told to isolate, not to go out, not to go to work. Important functions such as control rooms for power generation and transport are ceasing to operate, all because of this pathetic testing and tracing regime.
At some point, the country must wake up from this whole delusion.
“Well, I now have to praise the BBC’s Nick Robinson for saying this on the Today programme on Wednesday: ‘The evidence is that the masks that most of us wear, the one I have got here in my pocket, a sort of cotton mask that you either make yourself or that you buy, gives you no protection at all, absolutely none.’ After ages of assuming that loose cloth masks are effective, this must be the first time a major BBC presenter has stated the experimental truth. Yet nobody seems to have noticed.” [Peter Hitchens, in the Mail on Sunday].
“Ultra-feminists despised the decent, honourable tasks of motherhood, claiming that the only road to fulfilment lay in wage-slavery outside the home. Any fool could have told them that paid employment is not the road to freedom, but they did not want to hear this. And nobody has yet devised a way of getting men to embrace the tasks wage-slave women no longer have time to do. So they don’t get done.” [Peter Hitchens, Mail on Sunday].
“Lots of idiots still admire Cuba, believing the propaganda of its nasty, despotic junta. I think this is because so many of the former student revolutionaries of the 1960s imagine themselves in beards and fatigues riding at the head of a triumphant revolutionary parade into the fallen citadels of conservative, Christian civilisation.
The truth about Cuba – that it is a miserable, rationed secret-police state that even has first-class money for the elite and second-class money for its ordinary people – has always been unwelcome.
So has the fact that this potentially wealthy country is run by drearymiddle-aged bureaucrats, fearful of their subjects, with brains of solid Marxist concrete, about as rebellious and romantic as a public lavatory. Yet the youthful, barricade-storming image must still be maintained. Its official radio station, a conduit of weary, censored propaganda, is called Rebel Radio.
But now a real rebellion against these self-styled rebels has broken out on the streets of Havana. It looks to me like a proper uprising from below, not orchestrated by anybody.
And the admirers of Castro’s squalid state – who still litter the BBC, the universities, the schools, the media and the Civil Service – don’t know what to do or say. For they do not want to admit that, like the man they long admired, they have themselves become an intolerant, inflexible ruling class.“[Peter Hitchens, Mail on Sunday]
Very true. I have argued all my life against idiots who thought that Marxist-Leninist or derivative regimes in the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Vietnam, Nicaragua, and now Venezuela were decent and worth supporting.
As far as Cuba is concerned, the sort of people who even now support it are (generalizing wildly) like the NHS doctor whose cottage near Totnes I was once (2001) thinking of renting. She could not show me the place because, I was told, she is “cycling in Cuba”. Cuba is revered by some because it trains vast numbers of health professionals, who are then ordered to work in other countries so that Cuba can get foreign exchange, or barter goods.
As for the British and other mugs who supported the Cuban-inspired Sandinistas in the 1980s, they are still around, those that never woke up (to reality, not “wokeness”), and now support Venezuela, “Black Lives Matter” etc. Nicaragua itself is now suffering under the ex-Sandinista rebel, Ortega, and is a complete mess, but the “woke” idiots have other idols these days.
“Che” would not necessarily now be on their side, had he escaped being given a couple of rounds in the head in Bolivia over 50 years ago:
Socialism of the old type has frozen Cuba in time, to an extent that even the Soviet Union was not. Occasionally one sees TV people doing travel shows about Cuba. I think that Michael Portillo did one mainly about Cuba’s shambolic trains; Chris Tarrant certainly did.
Cuba’s trains are apparently kept going by all sorts of weird and wonderful methods, rather like those “iconic” 1950s American cars that ferry tourists around Havana.
Havana itself is falling to pieces. Occasionally, buildings just collapse after decades of little or no maintenance.
To some extent, I can see why some British, other European, American, people “support” Cuba: it has stood its ground against its superpower neighbour, it has its own identity etc. Other people have felt that way about other small and embattled states: Rhodesia, Israel, Taiwan, even North Korea. However, that is a sentimental attachment (if any) better indulged from a distance.
Cuba is basically a shambles. Admittedly, I myself have only seen it directly from the air (overflying from Tampa, Florida, to Grand Cayman), and from the sea (between Cuba and Jamaica).
My only contact with Cuban bureaucracy was when some British and expat Iranian scientists asked me to help find a sponsor for their biofuel project (I called it, to myself, “making gold out of straw”). A couple of countries were interested. This was in or about 1995.
The Ukrainian Ambassador in London even accompanied me (in his rather nice chauffeur-driven Lexus limousine) to Porton Down research centre (Wiltshire) one day, to meet with the team at their labs. That led to nothing, but at least the Ukrainians were interested. The Cuban Ambassador did not even reply to my letter! That despite the fact that Cuba would have been ideal— a country in need of fuel, with a huge quantity of otherwise unusable biomass (sugar cane detritus), and with a large cadre of scientifically-trained labour. Useless. Well, there it is…
How many millions of humanoid rabbits will be pointlessly “self-isolating”, and to what extent need the country collapse, before enough people wake up to the fact that this whole thing is a nonsense? People are being played like balalaikas.
In other words, Macron is a puppet of NWO and ZOG, right the way through.
Robert Peston is Jewish (or possibly part-Jewish…I am uncertain), but not particularly, if at all, sectarian. He was not brought up to be sectarian, I believe I read somewhere. That kind of distinction was recognized, up to a point, in National Socialist Germany, under the “Nuremberg Laws”, where those who were Mischlingen, or part-Jew, were treated in law differently depending on whether they adhered to Jewish religious communities etc, or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Classifications_under_the_laws.
As can be seen in those tweets and reports, the Jews in Israel use “lawfare” (“legal” warfare) to get what they want. When that fails on its own, they use illegal methods, pressure, corruption, and ultimately violence. In the end, it is little different in the UK, France, and other places where Jews exist in large numbers.
Jess Phillips was interviewed by Stephen Sackur on BBC World Service recently. Hard Talk? Rename it to Soft Soap! Talk about being given an easy ride!
I am waiting to see what happens when facemask-wearing is no longer mandated by law in supermarkets etc (tomorrow). “Boris”-idiot has of course weaselled by saying ppl still “should” wear them! What a spineless bastard he is! He has all the leadership and prime ministerial qualities of a jellyfish.
Yes. Much of the scare regime of the past 19+ months has been superficially “voluntary” (the idiots wearing facemasks while cycling in the country etc). There was some Jew, a few years ago, who ran a thing at Downing Street called the “Nudge Unit”, trying to pressure the public to do this or that without using law. Is that unit still around in some form?
…and the usual idiots and Greta Nut supporters are already saying that Germany is flooded because of “climate change”, despite the fact that it has happened many many times before.
Peter Hitchens is sadly deluded here, though perhaps if only a tiny handful were to vote, it might present a moral challenge. That never happens. Not in major elections. Voting is usually pointless; abstention is always pointless. Something else might get rid of the present nuisances, but I think that, in the present climate, I prefer not to suggest it…
Surely it cannot be denied that his presentation and manner are closer to those of Jew comics than of English statesmen?
Eton and Oxford may put a gloss on someone such as “Boris”, but that gloss is a very thin veneer.
More late tweets
Still, let’s make our protest tomorrow (Monday, 19 July 2021). Masks—OFF!
“On the one hand, this will be the temptation of Americanism, which threatens ‘ gradually to tum Eastem Europe into a virginal appendage of the economically developed and politically advanced Westem countries and also to inundate it on a huge scale with all the ‘achievements’ and ‘fruits’ of super-materialism. On the other hand, as its counterpart, the temptation which arises out of a rejection and fear of this mighty and unconquerable wave of Westem materialism to return to one or another of the forms of the traditional spiritual past.
Although Americanism will be able in a comparatively short time to satisfy the more ‘earthly’ demands of the East European, in so far as these have been virtually unsatisfied during the past seventy-two years, it will, as a result of its anti-spiritual nature, be unable to offer him any kind of spiritual ideals or evolutionary perspectives, apart from that of achieving universal material well-being.” [from The Golden Blade, 1991]
Musing on life, death, and on the nature of killing as sin
Most religions forbid the taking of life. In Christianity and Judaism, the Ten Commandments given to Moses cover the issue, while in Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism (etc), similar basic prohibition is outlined.
In the most ancient of the still-existing major world religions, Hinduism, killing is seen as wrong but, in some cases, also right. For example, on the field of Kurukshetra, when Arjuna loses heart at the thought of fighting and killing his relatives on the other side, Krishna puts steel into him by indicating that it is Arjuna’s destiny to kill on the battlefield, in the cause of the right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna#Bhagavat_Gita.
“When the war was declared and the two armies were facing each other, Arjuna realized that he would have to kill his dear granduncle (Bhishma), on whose lap he had played as a child and his respected teacher (Drona), who had held his hand and taught him how to hold the bow and arrow, making him the greatest archer in the world. Arjuna felt weak and sickened at the prospect of killing his entire family, including his 100 cousins and friends such as Ashwatthama. Despondent and confused about what is right and what is wrong, Arjuna turned to Krishna for divine advice and teachings. Krishna, who Arjuna chose as his charioteer, advised him of his duty. This conversation forms the Bhagavad Gita, one of the most respected religious and philosophical texts in the Hindu religion. Krishna instructs Arjuna not to yield to degrading impotence and to fight his kin, for that was the only way to righteousness. He also reminded him that this was a war between righteousness and unrighteousness (dharma and adharma) and it was Arjuna’s duty to slay anyone who supported the cause of unrighteousness, or sin. Krishna then revealed his divine form and explained that he is born on earth in each eon when evil raises its head.” [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurukshetra_War#The_Bhagavad_Gita].
In fact, we see that the anti-killing prohibition is taken as literal prohibition by very few in our society. The “Thou shalt not kill” injunction in the Ten Commandments is kept to, most of the time, by most humans, as far as killing humans is concerned, but the same people (most of them) think nothing of, say, buying and consuming animal flesh, or fish. Or shooting pheasant. Where do we draw the line? Shellfish? Oysters? What about plants? They are also killed. Is pain and suffering, if any, the deciding factor? How literal must we be?
In India, there is a sect called the Jains, who even wear fine net over their mouths in case they inadvertently swallow small insects as they, the Jains, go about their day.
In Christianity, at first in Roman Catholicism, the notion of the “just war” was developed. If I am not in error, the thinkers behind this were St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Dominic.
That idea, of the “just war”, is deeply ingrained in human religion and in human history. Look at, for example, the Second World War. The psychological convenience of both the West (UK/USA, mainly) and the East (Russia) demands that the war against the German Reich be regarded as an “OK” war, a “just” war, and so a justifiable war. How else can the death, pain, and suffering be —conveniently— exculpated?
Germany suffered at least ten times the number of deaths (perhaps as many as 800,000) by bombing as did the UK (c.60,000), and the USA was not bombed at all. That disproportion, and other things, are considered “OK” because the war was, and still is, labelled as a “just war”, a designation encouraged by the Jew-Zionist element via endless films, books etc.
The issue is not as clear-cut as many of us would like to believe. We, most of us, were appalled at the outrages perpetrated by the IRA in both Northern Ireland and the UK from, especially, 1970-1997. All right, but one IRA bombing might kill one or two, or perhaps a hundred, people, whereas a single plane, even in WW2, might kill hundreds or thousands of people, mostly “civilians”. That was taken further at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Is quantity even relevant?
These “thoughts out of season” were prompted not primarily by thoughts about politics, as such, but by the present plague of flying ants, which are at present such a nuisance in Southern England.
How bad does a nuisance have to be before extermination becomes the only perceived alternative? Do flying ants have rights, or at least the right to have their needs considered by humans?
Questions without answers, perhaps.
Tweeter “@Tom5731” displaying an ignorance that is all too common. The Daily Mail support for the BUF was brief, and had been withdrawn by 1934.
Quite. To listen to some British people, you would think that nowhere else in the world has health services, or that they exist only for the wealthy few; or that the only alternative to the present NHS in the UK is some “pay or die” American-style health provision (though that is not a completely true characterization anyway).
Quite so. The weaponization of this relatively unimportant virus by means of a massive fear campaign has several benefits for the System. One is the —all but total— prohibition of traditional political activity.
Trad. politics? System politics? The perhaps vulgar but certainly accurate cartoon below makes the point quite well:
Boris-idiot. Boris the clown. Boris the part-Jew, part-Levantine chancer and liar. Only when you see how poor is this idiot and his mostly non-British Cabinet do you also understand how hopeless is misnamed “Labour” and its own idiotic leader, Starmer…
Starmer and Labour also offer nothing at all to the British people.
The law is being replaced by the wishes of the Government
Just heard radio news to the effect that various clowns in the present Cabinet are now saying that the facemask nonsense will “end” on 19 July 2021, 8 days from now, but that the public will be “expected” to wear facemasks inside “where appropriate” or the like.
In this country, the mere wishes of ministers and their advisers have never constituted binding law, not at least since the 17th Century.
Laws must be obeyed (on pain of penalty), but the wishes or “guidance” of government and administrators need not be obeyed unless made part of law by properly passed secondary legislation.
What we have here is a conflation of governmental wishes with law. It trashes the whole rule of law. In effect, it says, “do as we say even though it is not illegal not to do so.”
This has, perhaps intentionally, a confusing effect on public and police. We saw in 2020 how some police officers, both high and low in rank, seemed to enjoy arrogating to themselves powers which they, in law, did not actually possess: examining people’s shopping, stopping lone motorcyclists out for a spin etc.
The traditional line drawn was “law— to be obeyed, and to be enforced by courts and where necessary by police”, and “anything not law— voluntary in application”. That was right. This new “this is not the law but you really must do it” is actually the trashing of any concept of rule of law.
In the end, both the Scottish and Welsh nationalists were (in the late 20thC) infiltrated by System drones, and became just part of the System. The SNP is the more obvious, but Plaid Cymru is similar, just less successful.
However tonight's big bread, lager & kebab sportsball circus ends up,it will be held up as a triumph for #multiculturalism & the drugs, the stabbathons, the traficking and rapes of underage white girls will carry on regardless.The #Kalergi conspiracy must triumph & reach its aim pic.twitter.com/1zyWUBfywg
I remain convinced that the only strategy that makes immediate sense is for there to be a relocation of social-national people to the South West of the UK. Concentration of forces. I have blogged about this in the past (from 2016 or 2017).
I am unsure as to whether Biden is a total clown in the Boris Johnson or Donald Trump mould, or actually demented in some way. A puppet of the Israel lobby, either way.
“I have never seen this level of fury from within the church during my 25 years as a priest.” [Giles Fraser in Unherd magazine].
“Fury in the Church of England” comes across as rather Fawlty Towers (“...bloodshed at the Nell Gwyn Tearooms“), but if there is anger, one can see why.
Sometimes, organizations with large amounts of capital assets continue under that momentum despite having relatively few adherents.
In the late 1970s, when I was a member of the Theosophical Library in London (but not a member of the Society of which it was part: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society), I was told by the librarian of another library to which I belonged, the Rudolf Steiner Library, that the main reason why the Theosophical Society still existed was because it had vast monies, mainly coming from legacies bequeathed by elderly persons —mainly ladies— who died leaving much or all of their worldly wealth to the Society.
I always feel that the Church of England is like that, a facade of ancient or beloved buildings, and a capital bank of billions of pounds of investment, behind which shelter a clergy many of whom seem to believe that, in the Nietzschean phrase, “God is dead”; and with really rather small congregations.
I cannot say that my own occasional encounters with C. of E. clergy have been very inspiring. Most recently, some months ago, some arse-faced “priestess” from a church in Didcot, Oxfordshire, joined in with some other idiot (I cannot recall whether it was “antifa” cheerleader Mike Stuchbery or another of the same type) to say something stupid about me. A third party tweeted to the said priestess of Dibley, I mean Didcot, and noted the said individual’s lack of Christian charity (or even fairness), after which the hypocrite deleted her tweet about me.
I wonder how long the Church of England would last if it did not have its portfolio of investments. Putting it flippantly, 5 minutes would be my guess.
Other churches, of the more “evangelical” sort, can also seem to have little real faith at all. When I lived (1980s) on and off, and for a few years, in the Blackheath/Lee area of South East London, I lived around the block from a church building which presumably had originally been some kind of mainstream place, but had been taken over by an American (I think) “church” patronized entirely (as seen from outside when passing on Sundays) by carefully dressed-up black people.
I was about to try to build a wall in the garden of my then girlfriend’s house, and was learning (from a book) how to do that. To that end, I noted other walls seen by me in my travels. One was around said church. I wanted to examine it in detail, so thought that I had better ask permission. I rang the bell, and an American-sounding man (white, though, unlike his congregation) came to the door. The “pastor”, apparently. I explained. He obviously did not believe me, and said that the church was very well protected against theft! He was accompanied by a snarling Alsatian. He did say that I could look at the wall from the grounds of the church, but added a few more words of the “you’re being watched!” type!
My then girlfriend always referred to that church (the real name of which I cannot recall) as “The Worldwide Church of God Inc.”! Quite. The sort of Americanized idea that if you are “godly”, you will probably also be wealthy. Corollary? If you are poor, you are probably ungodly. Theologically in error, surely?
Late afternoon music
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The exchange refers to Pollard (Editor of the Jewish Chronicle) writing to the employer of a tweeter who had pointed out that Labour is now led by a Jewish-lobby puppet (Starmer). The tweeter lost his job. His family (if any) will also suffer. All because a Jew Zionist supremacist was unable to accept that a non-Jew should be able to express himself on socio-political matters. Other similar Jews have been gloating (as seen on Twitter), smugly pleased that the non-Jew is (probably) suffering by reason of the malicious complaint.
I covered the matter in my blog yesterday (8 July 2021).
Others who have suffered from that kind of harassment have included Jez Turner of the now-defunct London Forum (at which I once spoke), Alison Chabloz, the satirical singer, and Jo Stowell, the photographer. Among many others.
Slightly ambiguous 1999 report (eg refers to Jews as “white”, which should mean “of European/Aryan origin”). Still, point taken…
Thought to have a look, on Google Earth, at Little Venice [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Venice], an area near Central London where I lived —on and off— from summer 1976 through to about 1998 (though with many breaks, living also in those years in all sorts of other places: Blackheath/Lee, New Cross, East Dulwich, Tulse Hill, New Jersey/New York, Rhodesia, Leeward Islands, Kazakhstan, Egypt, Hampshire, among others).
Looking at it now via Google Earth, I saw cafes and restaurants, and other premises, closed by reason of the misconceived lockdown/shutdown. I do not know when the images were captured. Maybe by now, some places have reopened.
The old Eagle pub (known for years in the 1980s and 1990s as the Robert Browning), was closed; in fact, it looked like it had been turned into a restaurant anyway. Raoul’s cafe, my old haunt in the 1980s and early 1990s, closed for the duration.
Apart from the “lockdown” closures, there were other changes from when I knew the neighbourhood: the old post office on the corner of my street, which was once a real post office before being taken over by Indians or Pakistanis and degraded in services and ambience, is now another cafe, it seems. The old rip-off (but quality) grocers called Supafoods (in the 1970s a Jewish deli called Pribik and Sterman) is now a Tesco Metro, which has also taken over the former (even more ripoff) Cullen’s grocers.
The shop which was once “Nazarene and Co.” grocers (a friend used to joke with me about that, because Nietzsche wrote about Jesus Christ as “the Nazarene”), which then became a very good French provincial-wine merchant’s, part of the Nicholas chain, is now yet another (closed) cafe. The even better wine merchant who used to be a couple of doors away, and who once sold me, maybe 27 years ago, a case of incredible Moldavian wine marked down from about £25 a bottle to £8, wine that no-one else would buy (because they were unwilling to try anything unusual) is gone, I see. I have never seen Moldavian, or Moldovan as I suppose it now is, wine sold elsewhere in the UK.
I noticed that the shop premises, once a fishmonger’s, and where the Canadian/British fishmonger used to (probably against regulations) open a few oysters for me to eat on the spot, is now not only closed but the lease for sale, according to a large notice in the window.
That fishmonger was an odd fellow. He was seemingly about 40 when I used to buy oysters from his shop (early/mid 1990s), and came from a wealthy family in the fur business, I was told. In fact I was acquainted with someone who used to see him at the then Leningrad fur sale in the late 1980s.
Not, I think, a Jew. Though one assumes that the fur trade is mainly Jewish, not entirely (look at the Astors).
That fishmonger had, I heard, been not so successful in the furs business. He told me that he had spent a year in Newlyn, Cornwall, learning the fish trade. He never once mentioned to me that he had been in the fur industry, or that he used to travel to Leningrad. Another acquaintance told me that she had seen his nearby apartment, which apparently was very opulent. Rather an odd fellow, as I say, with a grudging or bitter attitude somewhere not far under the surface, I always thought. I wonder what became of him.
As for Little Venice, I have not been there for about 22 years.
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Dawn Butler. A dimwit that other dimwits want to see as leader of the Labour Party. On the other hand, maybe that would be good, and finish off fake Labour forever.
“The BBC has sparked a discrimination row after only allowing people from ethnic minorities to apply for a trainee position.
The broadcaster is advertising a one-year, £17,810 trainee production management assistant role with its Science Unit in Glasgow, but the position is ‘only open to black, Asian and ethnically diverse candidates’.
Positive discrimination is unlawful under the Equality Act 2010, but ‘positive action’ is allowed for trainee and internship roles in areas where there is under-representation.” [Daily Mail].
“Under-representation? It was recently exposed that the proportion of blacks working in the UK as TV presenters etc is in fact greater than their proportion in the population. In soaps, TV ads etc, there is huge over-representation of blacks and the mixed-race.
Just another example of the slow but accelerating attempt at the deliberate replacement of white (European) people, who have created almost everything of value in the world for the past millennium, and arguably for several millennia.
Batley and Spen by-election news
Apparently, Kim Leadbeater, the Labour candidate, and sister of Jo Cox, who was MP for a year (2015-2016) did fail to appear. Well, in a sense one could feel sorry for her, parachuted in by Labour to be the candidate, when she is not a politician and indeed only joined Labour very recently so that she could stand at Batley and Spen.
Kim Leadbeater was once, and notionally still is, a physical education teacher, but I read that she has in fact lived in recent years mainly from monies provided by the “charity” set up as “Jo Cox Foundation”. I have investigated that “charity” in the past. Rather doubtful, to say the least.
Labour Party rules require candidates to have been Labour Party members for at least a year, but so desperate were Labour’s leaders to cash in (as they thought) on the “sympathy vote” around Jo Cox (who was assassinated by a dissident, 5 years ago), that the usual rules were bent or broken for Kim Leadbeater.
I am not so sure that the said “sympathy vote” exists, in fact. The 2016 rigged by-election (at which the other major System parties and UKIP declined to stand) gifted Tracy Brabin, the Labour candidate, a vote-share of over 85%, but that was not only in a situation where only minor or crank candidates opposed Labour, but also on a miserable turnout (25%).
As noted previously, George Galloway’s candidature may well sink Labour. There might be nothing between the two major System parties without Galloway in the contest. Even then, though, and even were Labour to win by a handful of votes, that would still signal that Labour is on the way out in strategic terms.
Hard to believe that this is permitted. So much for the so-called “land of freedom”…
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For which the Cabinet of Clowns continues to impose lockdown/shutdown nonsense, facemask nonsense, and other nonsense (eg mass vaccination). As a result, 12.2 MILLION people in the UK await NHS treatment, inflation is taking off, whole industries are ruined, and the self-confidence of the people has never slumped so low.
Oh, “Bob from Brockley”…I had almost forgotten about that irritating and unpleasant Jew. He (real name Ben Gidley, a sociologist at London University: https://www.bbk.ac.uk/our-staff/profile/8746457/ben-gidley) used to troll me daily from his other Twitter accounts (notably “@inthesoupagain”) when I myself still had a Twitter account. His trolling went on for years, and on a daily basis. Some of his troll accounts were closed down by Twitter, though his “@antinazisunited” account is still, I think, there, though frozen for a couple of years now.
“BobfromBrockley” is basically a pro-Israel, pro-Jewish account on Twitter, though posing as “socialist” and pro-Labour Party, specializing in the pathetic and outworn slogans of the “socialist” past: “non pasaran!”, “Never Again!“, “Venceremos!” etc.
Ha…I notice that someone else on Twitter has noticed:
Incidentally, that photo is not “Bob from Brockley”, i.e. Gidley. It is an early mugshot of the singer Johnny Cash.
I am scarcely a fan or supporter of George Galloway, but it has to be admitted that, without his candidature at Batley and Spen, the by-election would be the usual meaningless (((controlled))) contest between two or three System parties. Now, at least one fake party (Labour) will probably lose a seat it has held for some time (since 1997). Galloway will then have achieved his objective, if only at the cost of giving a boost to the other main System party.
Though I despise the Conservative Party as it now is, I hope that Labour loses at Batley and Spen.
Labour is very much now again in the pocket of the Jewish lobby. The Conservative Party has long been so, especially since the 1990s. I suppose that is why George Galloway has a good chance of both retaining his deposit at Batley and Spen and also of denying the seat to Labour. Where will the Muslim vote go? Not to the Conservative Party, and now not much to the Labour Party, so that leaves Galloway as the likely recipient of quite a lot of the Muslim vote. He will probably get at least 5%, and may even get 10%.
35 years later, at the age of 70, Plisetskaya danced for one evening only in Almaty, Kazakhstan. I lived there at the time, and went to the ballet once per week (it was a fairly short walk from my home). My then girlfriend wanted to see Plisetskaya dance, even at such an age. Unfortunately, the tickets were sold out, so we never saw the famous ballerina [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Plisetskaya], whose husband, Shchedrin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodion_Shchedrin] is a fine composer (still alive and aged 88), but whose music is not really known in the West, certainly not to the general public.
“We are living under tyranny. The novelty of our situation has made its essence difficult to grasp, while the comforts that we still enjoy (for now) are concealing this reality for many, but the direction of travel is clear. The British government, and other governments, are operating through propaganda, censorship, deception, whisper networks, diktats, smear campaigns, political corruption and political repression to disseminate a pseudo-scientific narrative and ideology intended to entrench their power.
Government scientists, claiming to be speaking apolitically on the basis of ‘pure scientific facts’ are producing, on commission, pseudo-objective recommendations to camouflage an unrelated set of policies intended to achieve political and economic ends. At the same time, other government scientists manipulate the public with terrifying images and slogans, to pressurise against examining the government claims too closely.
The real policy agenda is fundamentally destructive and unpopular. Nobody was asked about it, nobody voted for it, and nobody wants it, except for the powerful global corporate, financial and political powers which are now collaborating to install it though force and fraud.
This is the pandemic: a global shock doctrine used as cover fundamentally to restructure global society.
The next political step in the plan remains the total social control matrix represented by immunity passports. For the moment, Britain is kept in lockdown because the lockdowns are required in order ‘to escape’ via vaccine passports; this too, of course, will not be an escape but an enslavement. Further steps will involve intensifying persecution of the ‘anti-vaxxers’, that is, all opposition to the government as it becomes more nakedly tyrannical, along with actions to co-opt opposition, misdirect it, misrepresent it and deflect it. A variety of active measures have begun already, for example the reported mandatory vaccination of NHS and care home workers.
Two weeks ago New York asset manager BlackRock began purchasing whole neighbourhoods of single-family homes in the United States. The idea is to shift from an ownership to a more profitable rental model. As the World Economic Forum says: ’You will own nothing and you will be happy.’
You actually will be a slave. Your social existence will now be made dependent on an algorithm determining how good a slave you are.” [Daniel Miller, writing in Conservative Woman online magazine].
In the UK, this is manifesting in various ways rather rapidly.
The country is split into two: the majority, perhaps vast majority, who take everything about “the virus”, its supposed importance, and the measures taken around it by government, at face value; and the smaller section of society who realize or have realized that “something is going on” that has little to do, directly, with necessary public health precautions etc, but much to do with the creation of a kind of disguised police state combined with the simultaneous creation of a panic-driven “public fear state”.
Well, once again I beat John Rentoul. He scored 6/10, but I trump that with 7/10. I did not know the answers to questions 2, 3 and 10 (though hit the post on question 2, thinking that it was 25 years and not the correct 20).
Much as I have little or no time for Jewish-lobby puppet Keir Starmer, I am yet surprised at some of those opinion poll responses. Boris-idiot leads a charmed life (so far)…
As for Andy Burnham, I realized years ago that he was a likely Labour Party leader (amid a poor selection bunch) but I see from the opinion poll that while about half the respondents would be more likely to vote Lab were Burnham to be leader, and only 10% less likely, 41% are unsure. Maybe Burnham is seen as dull (just like Starmer).
The problem for Labour, as I have blogged repeatedly, lies not only or mainly with its leader(s) but with its whole raison d’etre.
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Most of the measures taken have been a complete waste of time. That applies particularly to the facemask nonsense.
Roanna Carleton-Taylor and “Resisting Hate”
Twitter users will have seen many tweets by one Roanna Carleton-Taylor of Derbyshire (near Chesterfield), who was the mainstay of yet another hate-filled “anti-fascist” “organization” (consisting of a small number of lunatics and/or non-Brits). It is or was (possibly defunct now) smaller than the better-known and mainly Jewish “anti-hate” hate orgs such as “Hope Not Hate” and “United Against Fascism”.
“Roanna” was on Twitter as “@antifashwitch” and is now “@oilpaintwitch”. She has tweeted about me occasionally in the past; also about Alison Chabloz and others. She is friendly on Twitter with a few mentally-disturbed Jewish and other trolls in North London and elsewhere.
I have just seen a WordPress blog post about her, her husband, and others, which post is so plainly libellous (though I believe probably true) that I decline to quote from it or even link to it here.
Not that I am worried about being sued. My financial status now is such that I am effectively “unsueable” (to the chagrin of a few ambulance-chasing Jew lawyers and others!). Also my legal skills are still (mostly) there (despite having not had professional outing for many years). The Jews on Twitter have often mocked (what they assert were) my poor talents, but the unpleasant old Jew Q.C. who led the complaint against me to the Bar Standards Board in 2014 (resulting in my disbarment in late 2016) wrote to the BSB that, inter alia, “[Millard] has a strong and subtle intelligence“, if I recall his letter aright…
“Resisting Hate” seems to have imploded now, and “Roanna” has turned to painting. Her oils, some of them, are not too bad in fact, rather odd but quite original. Not sure what to call them. Something in the Primitive category, maybe. I am probably not qualified to categorize them. They have a certain soulfulness, suffused with foreboding.
In fact, I am often interested to see what happens to those who say “bad things” about me on Twitter and elsewhere, or indeed do bad things. These are or were persons who had never met me, knew little or nothing about me, yet were happy to laugh at my disbarment in 2016, laugh at my being expelled from Twitter in 2018 etc, and even to make malicious complaints about me to Internet organizations, professional organizations, even police organizations.
Quite a few of those mentioned above are now dead (natural causes, and “nothing to do with me, guv”…). I refrain from naming them because some troll would no doubt claim to the police that I am posting “grossly offensive” things. I sometimes amuse myself by reading the trolls’ (often still-extant) tweets attacking or mocking me. Who’s laughing now?…
Others have had other “tragic” events happen to them or to their families. Again, I choose not to give specific examples. Some of my most relentless trolls and pursuers are also now suffering from serious medical conditions.
“The stars in their courses fight on the side of the just” [Chinese proverb]
This is direct evidence of a transnational conspiracy.
Ha ha! George Galloway seems to be making the difference between either a very close win (for either main System party), and a Labour-crashes-in flames defeat (and so quite clear Con win by default).
As I remarked earlier, I might have little time for Starmer, but that people see “Boris” as more intelligent and, incredibly, more trustworthy than Starmer!… What dystopian parallel universe is this?
For me, leaving aside the plainly significant local factors, I should say that there is huge dissatisfaction with the present ridiculous government, but that, also, people have nowhere to go as yet. Yes, the LibDems had a stunning by-election victory in Chesham and Amersham, but there is no LibDem revival generally; and very few will vote Labour in southern England outside (or even inside) London.
The overnight upsurge of Brexit Party in 2019 is a lesson not much taken on board. If it had not been “controlled opposition”, if its leader had been someone more honest and ideological than snake-oil salesman Nigel Farage, if Farage had not stabbed Brexit Party in the back during the General Election, if if if…
Still, if one party can do it, rise up “from nowhere”, another party, social national and more honest, could do the same…
Interesting perhaps, but there was a similar list before the 2019 General Election. I have no faith either that the LibDems will revive enough to become significant players on the national stage or, in the unlikely event that they were to repeat their 2010 successes, that the LibDems would not then sell out again, as they did in 2010, for ministerial portfolios and money.
Boris-idiot is an appalling Prime Minister, but the masses seem to give him what the mediaeval revels called “the Fool’s Freedom”. That says more about the British masses than about “Boris”. As I wrote a couple of years ago, the British people have already discounted the many flaws and weaknesses of “Boris”, with the result that no scandal can touch him. He has, in the contemporary expression, “weaponized” his own deficiencies.
That leaves Starmer and Labour with yet another problem to add to their main ones— for what does Labour stand? What is Labour for? Effectively the same problem.
The Jew-Zionist lobby managed to get Corbyn binned. Starmer was put in Corbyn’s place, and all, or almost all, the Shadow Cabinet are now Labour Friends of Israel members. For the Zionist lobby, it really does not matter whether Labour fails to recover (entirely likely) or not. For the lobby, all that matters is that both System political parties of importance are under the Jewish/Israeli thumb (or heel).
It will be interesting to see what happens to Labour’s candidates in the two upcoming by-elections. In the first, at Chesham and Amersham, this coming Thursday (17 June 2021), Labour may struggle to retain its deposit. In the second by-election, at Batley and Spen (1 July 2021), Labour will be fighting to retain the seat.
Labour’s problem in directly electoral terms is not that its former voters might vote Conservative, Green, or whatever else, but that many will simply stay at home, whether literally or, in the case of postal voters, metaphorically.
I missed the tweet below (from weeks ago). I endorse the sentiments:
Many will recall Joan Ryan, the Israel-lobby one-time Labour MP, who was caught conspiring with Israeli intelligence officer Shai Masot a few years ago (Masot had a million-pound slush fund from Israel, with which to buy MPs, in effect).
Look at the last bit of that video, when the Jew, Masot, says that he has received a million pounds from Israel. The look of pleasure on the faces of Joan Ryan and her little sidekick!
Europe needs a Hercules, to cleanse the Augean Stables…
15 June 2021
Take away the unsustainable “furlough” payments, and take away the governmental support payments for small business and self-employed people, then ask the same or similar question again…and then ask a similar question a couple of months later. The “public opinion” will have shifted. Much.
The police have largely given up trying to police ordinary crime, and have shifted personnel and resources to trying to police socio-political expression, which is not their job (or their business). Much (not all but most) of it is driven (from behind the scenes) by the Jew-Zionist element aiming at the censoring of any criticism of the behaviour of Jews and/or Israel, as evidence my experience of some 4 years ago: https://ianrobertmillard.org/2017/07/13/when-i-was-a-victim-of-a-malicious-zionist-complaint/.
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In some ways, Cornwall is very different from England proper. I lived for a couple of years at Polapit Tamar manor house, about 4 miles north of Launceston, and only a short distance from the River Tamar itself (Tala Water, a stream that runs through the property, is a tributary of the Tamar).
Exactly. “Controlled opposition”, which was engendered, arguably, by the Okhrana in the early 20thC (Father Gapon etc), is now seen everywhere. Julia Hartley-Brewer cited in the tweet above, but also think Delingpole, anyone in the Spectator, pretty much; also Breitbart, Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, “Prison Planet” Watson, the pseudo-dissident bits of the Daily Mail and other msm outlets, as well as snake-oil salesmen like Farage (and pretty much anyone part of the whole UKIP/Brexit Party/Reform Party circus); others too.
How do you tell who or what is “controlled opposition”? The rule of thumb is, if they support —or are not hostile to— Israel and/or the Jewish lobby, then bin them. Controlled opposition.
Migration invasion. Santitized. Soon not reported on. All part of the “Great Reset”, Great Replacement, Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan or, putting it more honestly, down the line, White Genocide. The reality is behind the names.
Yes, David Icke and many others broadly aware of the above (and willing to oppose it openly) have been removed from social media platforms over the past few years. As always, the organized Zionist-Jew lobby is behind much of the “deplatforming”. I was expelled from Twitter in 2018. Icke followed a couple of years later. Many others have trodden the same “Sibirsky Trakt“.
In fact, unlike the dissidents of Imperial Russia and their even less fortunate Soviet successors, most of today’s dissident thinkers and activists do not end up doing time (though some do). It is far more subtle than that.
People lose jobs or professions (as I would have done —disbarred in 2016— had I myself not already binned mainstream life), are subject to occasional harassment by authorities, are bit by bit removed from social media and so from influencing online opinion, are prevented anyway from publishing offline via mainstream publishers (one of the first to fall victim was the historian, David Irving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving).
In my own case, from about 2009 to about 2015, Jews managed to get my book reviews (I was a “top 50” reviewer, one of the top 50 reviewers out of millions, as voted for by Amazon users) taken off both UK Amazon and US Amazon (so much for “the land of freedom”…because where “they” exist in large numbers, there never is any freedom).
I was then pursued via my then professional regulator, the Bar Standards Board, which eventually led to my disbarment (in England) in 2016 (in fact unlawfully, but that is not worth detailing right now).
Later, in 2018, I was removed from Twitter (I was never on Facebook).
You see the pattern. So far, American platforms such as WordPress have resisted (95% resisted) calls to “deplatform” me and others. How long a blog such as this will be available for the people to read is an open question.
The “panicdemic”, the “climate change” narrative, nonsense such as “Black Lives Matter” etc (all supported, you will have noticed by the big battalions of the msm such as Sky and the BBC, CNN, Hollywood etc), are but notes or Leitmotive in a symphony of socio-political “change” being played according to an agreed “composition”…
“Definition by decades”
The definition(s) below made me laugh; largely true…
“I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy, to learn how to think. But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think,” Park said in an interview with Fox News. “I realized, wow, this is insane. I thought America was different but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying.“
“Those similarities include anti-Western sentiment, collective guilt and suffocating political correctness.” [Yeonmi Park, on Fox News]
Well worth listening to what she has to say. In the end, this can only end one way…
I dislike mobs and mob rule, but it is clear that the unfortunate journalist, Nick Watt, was catching the flak that should have been fired at those nearer the top of the BBC, which has become, over the past couple of decades, a biased State broadcaster, with no more credibility than had the Soviet news media of the pre-1989 period.