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Give Them An Inch And They Take A Mile

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As I have been predicting, it seems that the Labour Party will soon adopt in full or almost-full measure, the “IHRA” “definition” of “anti-Semitism”, which the Jew-Zionists claim as the “international definition”, even though only about 30-35 states, out of nearly 200 in the world, have “adopted” it.

I have written, on previous occasions, that even if Labour “adopted” this Zionist-drafted “definition”(strange that there is no “international definition” of being anti-European, anti-white, anti-British etc, only “antisemitic”… well, maybe not so strange!), that would not be the end of it. The Jews would then move on to demand more and more, until they achieved their strategic objective– to remove Jeremy Corbyn and to regain full control of the Labour Party, which control they lost when Corbyn became –against the odds– Labour leader in 2015.

Today, Margaret “Hodge” MP, a Jewish Zionist (and Labour Member of Parliament), laid it on the line: even if the IHRA “definition” is accepted in full, it will not satisfy the Jew-Zionists. What will? Ah, yes, the head of Jeremy Corbyn, served in all its non-kosher glory on a silver platter. That is what they really aim at.

Ideally, Labour should just tell the Zionists to go whistle for their stupid “definition” and, in fact and in general, should tell them where to get off. I doubt that that will happen. For one thing, Momentum, the ginger group so much part of Corbyn’s backing force, is run by (in fact is actually owned by a private company of) the Jewish Marxist Jon Lansman. Though Lansman seems to be far from typical, blood is thicker than water. Indeed, only yesterday, Lansman had the damned cheek (Jews call it “chutzpah”) to suggest that “Jeremy” should get “training” in how not to be “anti-Semitic”!

I have seen no response from Corbyn to this idea that he should subject himself to Jew-Zionist brainwashing. I suppose that he will continue the way he has gone so date: sitting on the fence between openly challenging the Jewish Zionist lobby and its shibboleths (in particular, the “holocaust” narrative and industry), and becoming an out-and-out doormat for the Jew-Zionist lobby (in the manner of most Labour MPs).

If only Corbyn had the confidence to appeal to the rank and file Labourites who back him! Many, true, have been brainwashed by Zionist infiltration of propaganda into schools, msm etc (not to mention fiction masquerading as fact, as in, e.g,, Schindler’s List and the like), but even some of those are now waking up:

https://twitter.com/BarbAdams66/status/1036527228950138882

In fact, many of the better Labour people on the ground are not very far from social nationalism, though the brainwashing so evident everywhere now would prevent most from seeing that.

If the Jews get what they want and have Corbyn removed (or forced to resign), then Labour will probably do worse rather than better in any general election of the near future. On the other hand, if Corbyn stays but as effectively a prisoner of the Zionist lobby, he will –accurately– be seen as a weak leader. The voters will turn away from that.

The next general election is Labour’s to lose, and it begins to look as if it may do just that. I had thought that Labour would be the largest party in a hung Parliament. Now I am not so sure.

Update, 6 November 2019

A good typical example of how the Jew-Zionist lobby demands this or that, wears down resistance by constant bullying or whining and then, having got what it wants, moves on to the next demand and is perennially unsatisfied:

Update, 27 July 2021

Well, I think that I can claim that the above blog post from three years ago has been proven to be pretty accurate! Give that man a cee-gar!

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The Rift in the Labour Party Deepens

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I recently blogged here about why I hope that the Labour Party splits into at least two main parties (it has already split into factions):

https://ianrmillard.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/why-i-hope-that-labour-splits/

My conclusion in that piece was that, should Labour split, then so to speak “official” Labour will triumph, because it has

  • the name-recognition;
  • the “validity” of being “official” Labour; as well as
  • the funding from trade unions and –equally important now that Labour is again a mass party with 500,000+ individual members and supporters– the rank and file; and also
  • most of the party organization.

“Official” Labour also has Jeremy Corbyn. True, his academic background was very poor, his post-academic work background very sketchy,  his achievements as MP few; and yet he is quite popular among not only Labour members and supporters but also with at least 25% or so of the voting public.

Labour is still sitting between 37% and 40% in the opinion polls polling “voting intention”, about the same as the Conservative Party, so it seems that, for voters who prefer Labour as a label for which to vote, Corbyn is at least not a very offputting factor.

Contrast that with the proposed “Centrist” or “Provisional Labour” party: would-be “leaders” such as thick chancer/careerist Liz Kendall (Zionist and probably part-Jew), or shallow (and half-Nigerian) Chuka Umunna (who burst into tears when he realized that even standing for election as leader was not as easy as he thought).

Such a “Provisional” Labour Party of the supposed “Centre” (meaning pro-Zionist and not really socialist) would have no substantial financial or property assets, no organization in place, few members and supporters (no more than perhaps 20,000 at best), no real name-recognition, and only those MPs willing to jump ship from “official” Labour.

Most present Labour MPs know perfectly well that to leave Labour means forfeiting their seats at the next General Election. The few who have left already were no-hopers anyway: Zionist mouthpiece John Woodcock MP, a depressive, who has turned a once substantial Labour majority into a wafer-thin one and who was facing sex-pest allegations before he jumped ship; Frank Field MP, 76 years old and whose basically pro-Conservative views would have led to his deselection anyway; a few other doormats-for-Zionists who knew that their political careers were going nowhere (eg Michael Dugher).

It will be “interesting” to see how Woodcock and (if he stands) Field do at the next General Election. Either they will be soundly defeated by “official” Labour, or if running Labour close (which I doubt) will let in a third candidate, probably Conservative. If they have to stand as individuals and not even as candidates for “Provisional” Labour, their results will probably be laughable and they will be defeated easily by “official” Labour, as happened to sex-pest freeloader Simon Danczuk.

I imagine that there might be an attempt to form a “Centrist” party, but that only a few dozen present Labour MPs will defect to it. Corbyn, if he keeps his nerve, is unassailable in his position, and will be until or if he loses (badly) a general election.

Any Labour split will be good for social nationalism, though only if a movement and party can emerge to speak for and fight for the British people. In fact, the Jewish-Zionist hysteria around Corbyn’s supposed “anti-Semitism”, and the associated Jewish-controlled and/or influenced mass media campaign against Corbyn and Labour has done much to awaken people to the Zionist menace which permeates Western societies. People are starting to notice just how many editors, journalists, heads of PR and communications companies, ad agencies etc in the UK are Zionist Jews…

I feel happy at the turn of events. Excited too.

Update, 3 November 2023

Well, much water under the bridge in the past 5 years. The huge operation launched by Israeli Intelligence and the UK Jewish lobby eventually defeated Corbyn and his supporters. The 2019 General Election went badly for Labour. After that, Corbyn was replaced by Keir Starmer, a complete Jewish-lobby puppet.

Labour has (in effect) split, though. The Corbyn wing has either left Labour or has stayed though powerless. The incompetence of the Conservative Party looks like delivering a massive GE 2024 victory (by default) for Starmer.

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Labour, the Jews and the British Resistance

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Those unfamiliar with my views and work should note that I myself am not, neither have I ever been, a Labour Party member, supporter or voter.

We have seen the relentless attacks on present Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn ever since he was, as if by a miracle, elected and then re-elected. Those attacks have recently intensified to fever pitch, with clips of remarks by Corbyn given wall-to-wall publicity in the Jewish press (both the Jewish community press and the mainstream media or “msm”); The demand now comes that Labour must adopt the so-called “international definition” of “anti-Semitism”, which was drafted by Zionists and which has in fact been “adopted” by only about 30 states in the world (out of the nearly 200 that exist).

There are signs that the Labour Party apparat is going to cave in on the “IHRA” “definition”.

In a sense, this surrender will have limited effect, in that it will be used mostly to control and expel rank and file Labour Party members, who will then become, or become more, “anti-Semitic”…The bigger picture is that any partial cave-in on principle by Labour would make the field of possibility for social nationalism more fruitful. Just as many socialists and communists in Weimar Germany became convinced National Socialists, so those either expelled or let down by Labour might become the most convinced followers of social nationalism; at least the European-race “white” ones. As Jack London said, “I am a socialist, but a white man first.”

I have no doubt that, should Labour adopt this “definition” (which effectively means that “anti-Semitism” –which is, a priori, thought “bad”– consists of whatever Zionist Jews say that it does…) the Jewish-Zionist cabal on Twitter etc will crow, but also that the overall political effect will be close to zero.

One cannot put new wine into old bottles. The old parties of the System are losing credibility fast. The same is true of their leaders: a recent opinion poll on their popularity (actually, unpopularity!) asked would Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn be best Prime Minister, but the result was interesting– Theresa May about 35%, Corbyn only 25%, but “don’t know” nearly 40%!

A new party might not achieve immediate success now, but when the right situation develops, it could take off like a wildfire— and the System parties will be unable to control it. The Zionists will be swept aside by a wave of popular support for the new party, and a new era will begin.

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Why I Hope That Labour Splits

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The major System newspapers in the UK are now talking about two connected possible events. The first is that the Labour Party might split into two parties. The second is that new “centre” parties are about to emerge. I hope that such rumours are true. Why?

If Labour splits, Corbyn and the anti-Zionists will keep the name, organization and most funding sources of present Labour. The breakaway MPs, who might even be in the majority but will probably, in reality, number only in the dozens rather than the hundreds (Labour presently has 258 MPs), will have slender resources. Most rank and file members and supporters joined because of Corbyn and will almost all stay with him and “official” Labour.

The Zionists and pro-Zionists and doormats in Labour (the usual suspects: Liz Kendall, Chuka Umunna, John Woodcock –already resigned–, Ruth Smeeth –exposed as an agent of American Intelligence and of Israel–, Luciana Berger etc) will be lucky to retain their seats. Most if not all will lose. Thus we shall be rid of at least many of the most vocal Zionist trumpets at Westminster.

As for the new “parties” speculated about, they have little chance, for several reasons. One is likely to be funded by some (I presume) Jew called Franks, who apparently has £50 million with which to play. He is said to regard himself as another Macron (and sees that as a recommendation!). These parties have no chance, because of FPTP voting, English (Welsh/Scottish) voter caution, but most of all because (though I deprecate “left-centre-right” labelling), people who are not desperate rarely look for an alternative; those who are desperate seek radical and revolutionary solutions. These “centre” parties are strategically misplaced.

If a new and truly radical social-national party emerges, though, that will have a chance…

When the misnamed “Conservative” Party is weak and led by idiots (as now), when Labour is in a similar position and split into two, when both System parties are further weakened by new parties in contention, we can strike.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/20/prospect-new-uk-party-grows-westminster-political-cracks-brexit

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Corbyn and the Jew-Zionist “Claque”

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In the past couple of years and particularly the past couple of months, I have blogged about Corbyn and the Labour Party, and the attack on both by the Jewish-Zionist element (including some MPs who are not actually Jewish but who are part of the “depose Corbyn” plot(s)). Now we have seen about a month or so of highest-level abuse and “active measures” by that Zionist lobby and against Corbyn and the Labour Party he leads. The allegations of “anti-Semitism” and “pro-terrorism” are in every MSM newspaper every day and are frequently on TV, radio etc. I wonder why?…

Leaving aside rhetorical questions, we see that, as I predicted, the anti-Corbyn campaign this time is not slackening much. “They” know that their star is waning. Their one hope is to depose Corbyn and the one way left to do that is to get him to resign. The other methods have already been tried— a coup by MPs, then a second attempt. Those failed and then Corbyn’s success in at least having dozens of new MPs elected at the 2017 General Election cemented him into position as Leader. The “anti-Semite Corbyn” campaign by the Jewish-controlled and/or influenced msm may have been part of the reason why as many as 50,000 Labour members and supporters have recently left the party, but that still leaves Labour with at least 500,000 members and maybe as many as 540,000. That compares to 124,000 reported by the Conservative Party (though many think that the real figure is as low as 50,000).

In the Vienna theatres and concert-halls of the 19thC, as well as those of Paris and elsewhere, there was a well-organized “claque”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque

The Zionist-controlled msm as a whole is rather like the “claque”. One could include in that claque connected Jews on Twitter, most of whom are members or supporters of the malicious “Campaign Against Anti-Semitism” fake “charity”.

The opinion polls at present (August 2018) show the two major System parties close together in popular support, though Labour may have a slight edge again now, as the constant anti-Corbyn propaganda becomes counter-productive.

The Zionist Jews are appalled, having thought that their constant propaganda on msm would cause a huge dip in support for Labour and so build pressure on Corbyn to resign or face yet another leadership bid from some pro-Zionist doormat. The failed and laughed-at plotters of the recent past, such as Liz Kendall, Chuka Umunna and little Stephen Kinnock are still at it, plotting in luxury farmhouses against their own party.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6033473/Dozen-Labour-MPs-secret-plot-oust-Corbyn-hatch-plans-144-night-farmhouse.html

In the end, what the Zionists fear is that Corbyn and Labour will be thoroughly labelled as “anti-Semitic” yet go on to win the next general election, thus proving that the people themselves are sick of the Jewish-Zionist element.

What does this all mean for social nationalism? A weak government under Corbyn (who is unlikely to win an outright majority) can only favour us. Labour members, supporters, voters will blame the Zionists (not unfairly) for having put Labour down. On the other hand, a Conservative Party government (probably also minority) will be the focus of mass hostility, along with its Zionist controllers.

I doubt that Corbyn will resign, for all the pressure put on him. He has come too far against all the odds. That favours us, overall, because in the end, it means that the Zionists will not control both main System parties.

The British people will need an effective and social-national government.

Gott mit Uns.

Notes

https://ianrmillard.wordpress.com/2018/08/03/their-last-throw-of-the-dice/

https://ianrmillard.wordpress.com/2018/07/30/what-way-now-for-the-labour-party/

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Their Last Throw of the Dice

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The Jewish lobby (aka Israel lobby, Zionist lobby etc) have been pulling out all the stops to trash Corbyn, to make him resign or to surround him by Labour MPs, officials, NEC members, “advisers” etc who can restrain him, control him and maybe depose him.

The lobby has been gunning for Corbyn since he was first elected as Labour leader. I have previously blogged about that in some detail. “They” failed to prevent Corbyn’s election, then failed again (to prevent his re-election). In between, the lobby has applied maximum pressure on Corbyn himself, in order to try to force a resignation. They have also tried to remove key Corbyn supporters. The latest attempt to topple him even had the head of Labour group Momentum [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum_(organisation)], Jon Lansman [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lansman], a Jew, reduce support for Corbyn in the key area of supposed “anti-Semitism”. Momentum itself is actually controlled by a private company ultimately controlled by Lansman:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5002774/How-ex-public-schoolboy-Jon-Lansman-hijacking-Labour.html.

In addition, John McDonnell MP, ambiguous if not favourable to Jews, and an ambitious man who (for the first time) is within sight of a ministerial and possibly prime ministerial role, has been prevailed upon to pressure Corbyn in person. He is, arguably, Corbyn’s closest ally in the House of Commons.

The most recent manufactured storm around Corbyn and Labour has been set in motion after Labour refused to adopt the so-called “international definition of anti-Semitism” promoted by a Zionist body called the “IHRA” (which tries to ban all critical examination of the “holocaust” narrative and fakery thereof). In fact, though 30-40 (ZOG-occupied) states have adopted the definition, 155-165 have not (there is dispute about the numbers).

The storm now raging as I write has been a revelation even to me, as I realized anew how deeply the Zionists have burrowed into the structure of the UK, especially in the fields of politics, law and the mass media. Not every journalist-scribbler, editor, msm CEO, lawyer, TV/radio talking head etc is a Jew; it just seems very like it…

At time of writing, it seems that Corbyn is going to tough it out, seem to give in in part, while actually withdrawing from the fray so that the Jew-Zionists have nothing against which to press. Corbyn must have studied Sun-Tzu!

This is surely the last throw of the dice for the Jewish Zionist lobby trying to unseat Corbyn. The assault this time has been frenzied. The reason is clear: Labour recently was ahead of the Conservatives in the polls, though it is at time of writing in second place again by reason of the contrived msm storm. Labour has every chance of at least forming a minority government after the next general election. If that happens, Corbyn will be Prime Minister and the Zionists (for the first time since at least 1989) will not control or very strongly influence the British Government politically. This is their last throw.

Notes etc

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/881317/momentum-leader-jon-lansman-jeremy-corbyn-money-investment-firm-property-market-mcdonalds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War

Update, 13 October 2021

Looking back at this post after three years, I see that my basic analysis was correct, even though I was wrong in predicting that a 2018 or 2019 general election would result in a minority Labour government. That would have happened had a few connected events not intervened.

Brexit Party was formed, gained huge support initially, could have stormed to power had a destined leader been its leader, but failed because it did not become social-national and simply stayed as quasi-Conservative. Its leader, snake-oil salesman Farage, then stabbed Brexit Party in the back in 2019 by standing down most candidates, thus almost guaranteeing a Conservative Party win. The rest is history.

As for Labour, of course Corbyn was deposed by what amounts to a Jewish lobby operation, probably assisted by Israeli organs of intelligence and security. The new-ish Keir Starmer Labour Party is suffused with pro-Israel MPs; Starmer himself is married to a Jewish woman, and their children are being brought up as if fully-Jewish.

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To Topple A King

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In chess, the King is rarely attacked directly. The usual method is to remove his guard, the pieces which surround him [see, for example, The Art of the Middle Game by Keres and Kotov, first published 1964]. In politics, the same sometimes happens. The figure attacked is not easily dislodged directly, so is subjected to indirect attack.

The Jew-Zionists want to remove Jeremy Corbyn, mainly because they say that they see his leadership of the Labour Party as facilitating “anti-Semitism” in Labour and beyond. The reality is more that the Zionists have influenced all major System parties in the UK since the late 1940s (and to some extent since the 1930s), and have had a stranglehold over British political life and parties since, at latest, 1989. They have become accustomed to having most MPs as their doormats. They want to, once again, fully control both major System parties.

Corbyn was never expected to win the Labour leadership and only got on the ballot via the “Hand of God”, meaning that MPs who did not support him and did not later vote for him yet nominated him! I still find that extraordinary. He needed 35 nominations and got 35 (36 including his own vote):

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/06/who-nominated-who-2015-labour-leadership-election

Corbyn’s position is unassailable if he stands firm against the almost hysterical Jew-Zionist “claque” noise now being howled at him and Labour. The Labour members and supporters mostly support him. Against him is the Jewish lobby: msm (Press, radio, TV), and the pro-Zionist anti-Corbyn MPs in Labour (maybe as many as 200 out of 258). So the “lobby” tries a different tactic, one that they have tried several times since Corbyn was elected Labour leader: to remove his guard, and then to checkmate him.

Thus we see attempts to rig Labour’s National Executive Committee (NEC) against Corbyn, to place on it pro-Israel persons, whether those who make a living from being pro-Israel (eg Luke Akehurst) or oddities such as freak Eddie Izzard.

Now “they” have, in poker language, “upped the ante” by prevailing upon quite pro-Jewish John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor, “suited thug”, ex(?)-IRA supporter and sinister “antifascist” idiot, to pressure Corbyn. McDonnell is ambitious, sees himself as Corbyn’s successor and may want to stab Corbyn in the back. Labour is quite high in the polls. Any early general election (this year or in 2019) might well see Labour as the largest party and at least able to form a minority government. McDonnell may see himself as the next Prime Minister, incredibly.

Corbyn himself is prone to offering the Jews weasel words. That is because his risible old-style socialist worldview (including belief in the “holocaust” narrative fakery, “antifascism”, “The Battle of Cable Street” semi-history, “!No Pasaran” etc) is a huge part of the ideological baggage that he cannot jettison. Cognitive dissonance etc.  He should, ideally, just stand up to the Jewish lobby and appeal to the wider public, but in fact is now –again– cringing before the Jewish Zionists and “apologizing” to the bastards even as they try to get him removed! I see that as partly a tactic, however. If Corbyn retreats like the tide before the attacks, seems to give in at least verbally, then the Jews have nothing to press against. Judo? Sun-Tzu?

I never thought much of Corbyn, who had a very poor academic background, no real work background, no profession, as well as derivative and quite dull ideas. However, he is somehow likeable, and is a recognizable English type, the radical socialistic/anarchistic, cap-wearing Labourite of the last century, to be found in local Labour parties, on allotments, at steam fairs and heritage railway stations. More importantly, for me, Corbyn is not actually in the pocket of the Jewish Zionists, and (trump card) is laying the ground for social nationalism by just being there and being attacked by the Zionist cabal(s). If Corbyn can hang on in there as Labour leader, he stands a good chance of becoming Prime Minister within a year, even if only as head of a minority government.

Corbyn-Labour can lay the ground for social-nationalism. Many of his own supporters are, albeit unwittingly, halfway there. That is why the enemy are trying to topple him. I hope that they fail.

Update, 2 January 2024

Well, 5-6 years on, much water has passed under bridge. As we now know, the mendacious snake-oil salesman and (in reality, though not usually openly, and as “controlled opposition”) Israel mouthpiece, Nigel Farage, stabbed in the back his own supporters and candidates (and even, in effect, stole their money) by standing down the Brexit Party candidates at the 2019 General Election, thus gifting dozens of seats, maybe even 100 seats, to the Conservative Party. That is part of why the Con Party “won” that election.

The other reason why the Con Party “won” (though scarcely at all increasing its vote-percentage) was because Labour’s vote-percentage fell by, if I recall aright, about 8 points. The 4 years of ceaseless “Corbyn is a terrorist” propaganda had had its effect on the electorate.

2017 Labour voters voted with their feet in 2019; huge numbers abstained, some voted for the Con Party or elsewhere.

So here we are. The Israel-lobby in Labour grabbed power after Corbyn resigned. They selected dull-as-ditchwater Starmer (pro-Israel, Labour Friends of Israel member, Jewish lawyer wife, children being brought up as if fully-Jewish) as leader.

MPs and others who are anti-Israel etc have been purged; even Corbyn himself. It now looks as if Starmer-Labour will win the 2024 GE handsomely, but purely by default, because the Government of little Indian money-juggler Sunak is so incredibly useless..

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Encounter with Two Labour Ladies

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I thought to blog about an encounter, on Twitter, with two ladies of seemingly similar views, both basically pro-Corbyn Labour Party supporters.

I happened to see that a Jew-Zionist lawyer and prolific tweeter was arguing with and, as the ladies tweeted (not inaccurately), “bullying” them because they opposed Israel. I myself block the Jew in question but started to talk to both ladies.

I could see that they had become aware of abusive tweets by one or two Jewish Zionist persons, notably minor academic Ben Gidley, who works at Birkbeck and Goldsmiths colleges of London University when not tweeting malicious pro-Zionism and supposed “antifascism” and who, while having his more “respectable” academic-oriented account, @bengidley, also runs @bobfrombrockley and did run the Zionist troll account @inthesoupagain (which was permanently suspended by Twitter for its abusive character). @inthesoupagain has in fact been resurrected as @antinazisunited, in which the same garbage pumped out by “Soup” is poorly-camouflaged behind tweets about US politics and other subjects. Other Zionist accounts are now connected with these, among them @gnasherjew (which “monitors” and denounces anti-Zionist Labour members).

At that stage, it seemed clear that both ladies were unaware of my own socio-political views (even in the cartoon form in which they are usually characterized by the Zionist element).

So it was that our Twitter conversation developed. Both ladies seemed well-meaning, wanting a better Britain in a better world etc. Not unlike some of my own views in many ways. They were becoming aware of the Zionist cabal on Twitter and of its methods (trolling those opposed to Zionist control).  They opposed Israel, possibly as much or more than I do myself. However, the amiable atmosphere was clouded when the discussion turned to Jews as distinct from Zionists.

Now the Zionists usually claim that up to 97% of Jews in the UK support Israel. The devil here is in the detail. What does “support” mean in this context? General sympathy? Allegiance right or wrong? Donating money? Serving in the Israeli army? More?

In the instant case, the Jew (and Zionist) lawyer wanted effectively all Jews to be regarded as Zionists. An attack on Zionists and their behaviour was therefore “anti-Semitic”. The two Labour ladies demurred.

As for myself, though I accept that there are some Jews who are ambivalent toward or even hostile toward Israel and/or Zionist activity in the UK or elsewhere, for me this is a sterile argument. I oppose Israel while recognizing that it is no worse as a society than most if not all of the states and peoples around it. I oppose Israel because it is the centre, or a major hub at least, of a world-wide web or network. My interests lie mainly in the UK, Europe generally and in the Russophone world.

My conversation with these two ladies started to take on the character of a debate akin to the debate which once existed between the mediaeval Scholastic school of philosophers (mostly priests and monks of the Roman Catholic Church and whose views devolved largely from Aristotle) and their Platonic-oriented peers. In other words, the Group as against the Individual. Which is the more important or determinative? The two ladies would only recognize individuals, individuals who may, for instance, be Jews, but who were not to be in any way labelled or analyzed by reference to their membership of the (race, culture, religion) group of Jews generally.

My own view is that I recognize the group first, but accept that an individual may not be a typical member of that group. So a Jew can have views and behaviours which deviate from the group of Jews (or Zionist Jews) generally. In other words, I think that I give weight to both the group identity and the individual identity.

While the two Labour ladies could not agree with me completely on the above points (and, while not wishing to characterize either of them as “thick”, they did seem to struggle with the discussion and indeed with logic at times), the conversation was still on a calm level until they realized (from reading about my politically-motivated disbarment, to which I myself had directed them) that my political views are social-national, not System or near-System “Labourist”.

In other words, the two ladies’ early and continuing brainwashing (by “holocaust” propaganda, other System programming at school, on TV, in the msm generally) kicked in. They became outraged (or, more accurately, were becoming or about to become outraged) that my views were slightly or rather out of their normal ballpark.

At that point, not wishing to engage in a fruitless discussion of the Third Reich or National Socialism with people whose views on the subject(s) came from The World At War (at best) or other (even more biased) Jewish/Zionist outpourings, I decided to politely mute these ladies before they became angry or hysterical.

All the same, I found the experience interesting. Their brainwashing or indoctrination may have prevented them from straying too far from what had been pumped into them at an early age (and I doubt that a latter-day “supporter” of Stalin would have outraged them…), but they at least were able to see that there is, on Twitter and elsewhere, a Jewish-Zionist cabal which is, inter alia, determined to trash anti-Zionist Corbyn. They and a million like them are not really ideologically awake, but it’s a start.

[the graphic is rather American, but still pretty good]

CponI2UUEAArtdyUpdate or Postscriptum

One of the “Labour Ladies” blocked me as soon as she understood (or, more accurately, misunderstood) my socio-political views. The other did not but left it for a day or so before tweeting the usual uneducated nonsense about how “Nazis” were (she apparently believes) “dying out”, that I should “rethink” my views and “love everybody”. I do not think that I need do more now than to close her curtains and tiptoe away…(actually, I politely replied and included a few suitable photographs with quotations to make my point; I was then blocked). Both ladies remain merely muted by me.

As for the dispute between the ladies and the Zionist, it seems that that rumbles on and may continue so to do.

Update, 11 April 2019

 

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Copeland By-Election: Watershed?

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Three weeks ago, I wrote a preliminary blog post about the upcoming Copeland by-election

https://ianrmillard.wordpress.com/2017/01/02/the-copeland-by-election-the-blog-before-the-blog/

in which I examined the history of the constituency. I also took a look at the factors influencing the present by-election. The time has now come to attempt a prediction with reference to wider political trends.

The Copeland constituency has been in existence on its current boundaries since 1983. The previous constituency, Whitehaven (created during the electoral reform of 1832), was rock-solid Labour (often over 60%) from 1935 until the boundaries were changed in 1983

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehaven_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

The Copeland constituency has continued Labour since its creation: the Labour vote reached its high-water mark in 1997, in the Tony Blair landslide. In that year, the Labour candidate achieved a vote of over 58%:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copeland_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_1990s.

His successor, Jamie Reed, started off in 2005 with a Labour vote of 50.5%. However, the Labour vote share has steadily declined since then, most recently to 42% in 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copeland_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2010s

The Conservative vote has been more volatile, ranging in various elections from 29% to 43%. The Conservatives achieved nearly 36% in 2015, only one point down on their 2010 showing.

The UKIP vote in Copeland has mirrored in a modest way that of much of the country: 2.2% in 2005, 2.3% (beaten by the BNP, which got 3.4%) in 2010, jumping to 15.5% in 2015.

The Liberal Democrats have never done very well in Copeland, their vote share flickering around the 10% mark, not exceeding that in 2010 (one point down from their 2005 showing in fact), then crashing to 3.5% in the 2015 debacle.

In 2010, the Green Party stood for the first time since 1987 but received a vote of less than 1%. That improved to 3% in 2015.

There are several factors which do not bode well for Labour:

  • Jamie Reed may be seen as a “rat leaving the sinking ship”, having taken a potentially lucrative position with the company which operates the constituency’s largest employing entity (by far), the Sellafield nuclear plant. That may seep into perceptions of Labour MPs as a whole;
  • recent polling shows Labour nationally as having the support of only 25% of voters;
  • the same polling shows that Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a potential Prime Minister by only 16% of voters;
  • Copeland voted heavily for Leave in the EU Referendum;
  • Copeland is believed to be hostile to the mass immigration which Labour and its embattled leader seem unwilling to criticize, let alone promise to halt.

Labour has now selected as candidate a local councillor, Gillian Troughton, a former medical doctor and supporter of the nuclear industry, in which her husband works. That may help Labour’s campaign, as will her support for the NHS and the local hospital, but Labour’s problems locally stem from its general decline nationally and its generally pro-EU, pro-mass immigration positions.

Traditionally, the Conservative vote in Copeland comes from particular communities along the coast and inland and that vote seems to be rather solid. There is no reason to suppose that the Conservative vote will not hold up fairly well, bearing in mind Theresa May’s recent stance on Brexit and also the immigration question.

Recently-stagnating UKIP can probably expect a surge in its vote, though it seems that the party will probably not be able to do well enough to win, which would require its 2015 vote to increase by at least 50% and probably more. However, UKIP will probably be able to garner votes from disaffected 2010 and 2015 Labour voters.

Turnout is key. In 2015, the Labour vote was 16,750, the Conservatives received 14,186, but UKIP’s vote was only 6,148. It is quite likely that former Labour voters will not so much vote Conservative or even UKIP, but simply stay at home and refuse to support Labour. If turnout slumps, particularly among those former Labour voters, then the Conservatives might well pull ahead of Labour , especially if the UKIP vote increases .

Prediction

Conservatives to win Copeland, with UKIP second and Labour third.

Effect

Only once in 35 years and twice in 60 years has a by-election seat been lost by the official Opposition party. If that happens in Copeland (even leaving aside the result of the simultaneous by-election at Stoke-on-Trent Central), Labour will go into a tailspin.  If Labour is pushed into third place, that effect will be magnified immeasurably.

Corbyn has made it clear that he will not resign whatever happens. Failure at Copeland would lead either to a second attempt to depose Corbyn via leadership challenge or (more likely) to a mass exodus of anti-Corbyn careerists, Blairites, Brownites and Zionists following Jamie Reed and Tristram Hunt out of the House of Commons and possibly out of the Labour Party. If that exodus, in turn, leads to the loss of further Labour seats, then it is hard to see Labour recovering. Ever.

We may be seeing the death of one of the two major (i.e. long-established, sometimes governing) political parties, something that has not occurred since the collapse of the Liberal Party in the 1920s.

Update, 3 March 2019

Well, two years on, looking at the article and its predicted result, I can feel content that I did OK. The Conservative Party candidate, Trudy Harrison, did win, as I thought at the time she would, getting a 43.3% vote. Labour’s candidate, Gillian Troughton, came second on 37.3%. A major factor was the collapse in the UKIP vote, from 15.5% to 6.5%. The vast majority of those votes probably went to the Conservatives.

The Green Party got a 1.7% vote at the by-election, the two Independent candidates 2.6% and 0.4%; none stood at the 2017 General Election.

The contest was reprised only 4 months later, at that 2017 General Election. The “main” (LibLabCon) or System parties ran the same candidates with a similar result: the Con vote increased to 49.1%; the Lab vote however also increased considerably, to 45.1%. The LibDem vote slumped, from 7.2% at the by-election to 3.3% at the General Election. UKIP’s vote slumped too, from 6.5% to 2.5%.

Copeland is now a fairly tight Con-Lab marginal. It could go either way next time.

Update, 5 June 2020

Well, since the last update, there has been another general election, the General Election of December 2019. In that election, the sitting Conservative Party MP, Trudy Harrison, retained her seat, and increased her vote-share to 53.7% (from 49.1% in the 2017 General Election). The Labour Party vote fell back by over 5 points. The other two candidates (LibDem and Green) both scored under 5% of the total vote; both lost their deposits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copeland_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2010s

Notes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copeland_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copeland_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2010s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trudy_Harrison